on sg server
but i feel its wud be same with a3 india,
[/quote]To: Moderator In-Charge
For this post is not made to flame or violate any policy, it's practically what i see, what i have witness and a write up of how i feel, many others will have different opinions, i hope as a moderator, your job would be to help control the situation in this thread from who ever that intend to reply and not close it just becos their replies are harsh against u or your policy. Show us u can do a better job then what we have seen so far, allow them to give their views, those exaggerated ones we have eyes to see, so being humans we would most probably ignore those. If any replies really offensively violate the policy to the extend that you don't think it should be allowed, pls take the measures of Editing the Forumer's post then put a remark: Post edited due to forum policy regulations. In no way do i wish to see a thread like this being closed just becos someone decides to start a flame war, there is more then one way to keep a thread alive without stopping it yet containing it at the same time. Hope you will be able to iimpress us.
So pls do not remove this post, use edit features if necessary to contain. Be friendly.
Thanks
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I have seen recently this forum turning into a flaming war zone between players and GMs despite trying to put some colours/life into it. So i was thinking since this is going on and on, why not discuss this issue.
Lets forget about high lvl, high eq, or who is the botter or who is dog etc.
Lets just think back, during the first 3 months of open beta.
The complains begin with: Pkers, (That is easily solved with the fact that pking is part of the game, train harder pk back)
Then came complains about bots, at first iGamesAsia took some actions on a small group, however by the time they took action, it was too late. the group or cell had spread so fast, it was taking over the server.
Lets now look at what would have happened if GM did ban each and every botter at the early stages of this game.
First, if those bots were ban:
-My good friends would still be training hard with me, they wouldnt have turned to botting. Till this day, most of my friends (You know who you guys are, especially the days where we trained nightly in r4, i suppose squirel u still recall those days where we trained manually without slping especially when there were events), well they turn to botting not becos they choose the short way out, no, they went to bot cos:
iGamesAsia did not take action on those bloody evil botters who first took the shortcut and then when their lvls go up, they enjoyed the thrill of pking us and our friends using their botted lvls. This is the rise of one reason why my friends turn to bots, cos they kept faith that iGamesAsia will punish those evil bot users who bot n pk thus taking away our hard train exp.
But what happened? iGamesAsia seems to promised us they would but end up they betrayed our trust and ended up allowing more bots. That is why my friends gave up in their trust on iGamesAsia and turn to bots cos they know they will need to use that path to lvl up fast enough against those who use the program the wrong way to protect their friends. So that is the reason y some of my friends bot to protect us from those that iGamesAsia failed to ban in the past. if bans were imposed then the trend of since gm dont ban bots we can bot also wont surface.
BOTS
If only those evil botters at first were ban, wouldnt the above make sense that there is no need for our dear friends to choose the dark side to protect us? and thus wouldnt the usage of bots be lower compared to now if everyone knows that bot users will be punish by the iGamesAsia efficiently?
SERVER LAG
And if everyone fears that efficiency and don't bot, wouldnt the server be in a healthier state whereby it is not run down by 24hours workload of countless bot program exhausting it nonstop without rest? imagine it's just a machine, it also need peak and non peak hours, whats the point of having a 3 hour maintainence but you are letting the machine suffer 165hours a week of high peak traffic and data transfer? now wouldnt that have lessen the recently or should i say on-going LAG complains of this game server?
UNSIGHTLY MANNERS
And look at World of warcraft compared to A3, they don't have those kind of childish shouts everyday scolding each other. If there are no bots everyone would train hard for their lvls, everyone would be working and knowing that hardwork is needed if they lose their exp through stupid fights. Even if someone wishes to take the bad role, he would also be a hero perhaps, but not like shouts such as: F u la, u bot still so hao liao about your lvl ... etc etc
If everyone were to train manually, wouldnt we be looking forward to events like Nevia Canyon where the war is really one enjoyable one? and since previous paragraph covered the working out of the server, wouldnt the server be in a better condition during the NC war?
SELLING OF ACCOUNTS
No doubt we are binded by the policy once we register and send our application for an account with iGamesAsia however if the policy is not well held by the management themselves, well do you think ppl will really give a damn about the policy? If there are no bots, every bit of hardwork would hav gone into training, thus do you think so many ppl would sell accounts like they just insert 50cents get a tikum and don't like so now throwing it away? i suppose not if it was really hand trained, u will find it too hard to just sell it off this way, thus perhaps u would either pass it to a friend or bury it. However i do not rule out the cases of ppl not selling acct even if its hand train, but due to manual and things being slow, this sudden case of selling would be slow as well, not to mentioned not so often as now. Wouldnt things be easier and lesser administrative control to add pressure to players whereby alot of other things are not done?
NEW MAPS n EVENTS
With so much of the above being pointed out, if all those were dealt with on the ball by iGamesAsia wouldnt there be lesser problem and administrative work by now? wouldnt iGamesAsia have more time to concentrate and focus on more events? I still feel that when jonathan once told me, the reason why they can't keep their tails on the bots is becos they are trying to look at the bigger picture which is more events to come. However, i did warn him, if the bots continue, he will face more problems instead of having more space to create events and even to imagine other things. So now we have it so much problems and given the bots progressing at such a stage where by lvling is so fast, bot users or should i say automated players have began to pressure the iGames team for more maps and such complains would mean extra problems, here we go, another issue that is being nagged about everyday.
QUITTING/PKING ISSUE
And if there were no bots there would have been more friends and more friendship being built within this game. Look at it now, with bots, those bot users are still complaining the game is unplayable etc, while those of us without bots are still playing. I think the reason we can still play is becos we do believe that when a game is created, it's meant to last in play value, if so fast is the answer of achieving the end result, then wads the point of making the game. And furthermore, we played all this way, we know how much exp we get, and we are used to such grindings, it is till this stage i dare say that without bots, there will still be as many players around cos those friends who turned bots would still be around training with us. and i doubt that the recent: "GM if no new map no panda we quit! give us back panda if not we pk everyone and ruin this game so igames will close down" would happen cos it is this relying too much on panda that makes them feel it's so hard to lvl now. Others like Bladeleo would now post reply and whack me with the answer saying ed, its impossible to train from 160-161 without botting etc, my reply would always be, its the value and the lasting line of this game that counts, nothing is impossible, it's just whether u have time for it thats all.
So if we look at the way we warned iGamesAsia about the ways they handle things during the first 3 months of open beta, i would say those who tried very hard to request for iGamesAsia to look into the back then minor issues that can be nailed on is right. I miss the days of partying n training with good pals like squirel and the rest, also miss those days in c3 with those who already quitted, bond were so close back then, we even rotated hours to book a particular spot for each other, where did those days go to?
Guys, this is how i feel after playing ever since the start of open beta till now. Now let's just stop all the complaining about this and that quitting etc and look back and after finish reading what i have said, touch your heart and give your most honest reply, no flaming no spamming, i don't wish for this thread to be closed and if you guys flame spam then TheModerator obviously wins in his attempts to close the thread on you and me again. So pls honest replies but calm ones as well, just gentle replies k, and for those who are going to tell us without bots no rares can't make it etc, pls go tell that to your botter friends, to us this game is more then rares etc or being high lvl, to us its the days where we train together and laugh at each other's mistake chatting about our daily lifes and silly stuff that counts. So keep all your high lvl egos and eqs and your challenging other's wits or accusation habits away from this thread, just some simple comments replies that won't violate or close this thread will be nice.
Thanks all for your time, its been a nice journey in a3 with u guys, could have been nicer if we could have turn back the time..
Warmest wishes & best regards,
Ed
