PVP TIPS FOR ARCHERS!!

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gmfirst wrote:Against Cruise Warriors

In PVP

1. Dispel the cruise effect.
2. Use chaser rather than mirage.
3. UW from a distance.
4. Use a Grahsat if you can.
5. Concentrate on additional crit equipment rather than evasion. Ideally you should not be taking any hits from the warrior so evasion is nt necessary. Run and take powerful shots. More the crits better it is.
6.Super Shue with a good crit rate makes a difference.

BOTTOM LINE - Do not plan on taking hits, Dont take hits, Make every arrow hurt as much as it can.

In PK

Unless he initiates attack on you, you cannot dispel his cruise. The rest will apply the same.
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hemu_8 wrote:
gmfirst wrote:Against Cruise Warriors

In PVP

1. Dispel the cruise effect.
2. Use chaser rather than mirage.
3. UW from a distance.
4. Use a Grahsat if you can.
5. Concentrate on additional crit equipment rather than evasion. Ideally you should not be taking any hits from the warrior so evasion is nt necessary. Run and take powerful shots. More the crits better it is.
6.Super Shue with a good crit rate makes a difference.

BOTTOM LINE - Do not plan on taking hits, Dont take hits, Make every arrow hurt as much as it can.

In PK

Unless he initiates attack on you, you cannot dispel his cruise. The rest will apply the same.
Dude, can u come PvP with me?? :D

Naa How abt guidelulu goin 1 on 1 wyt Gmkarr(i guess he is axe warrior) r Eventgm(he is sword warrior)....i guess guidelul will win archers walk ov er warriors anyday :P :P :P



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1nce archer's critical is ignored they becomes useless
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abhishekngu wrote:1nce archer's critical is ignored they becomes useless

naa... DISAGREE...crit aint everythin for archers they got evasion,accuracy and debuffin facility...secondly agility dominates strength and archers have the highest agility in this game...


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i remember my old days when i was g4,g5,g6,g7 and i had no opts in my set still i use to kill ne archer of my lvl though they have mirage and chaser and i wasnt even having cruise at that moment. Yes, They do have accuracy,evasion etc but still there biggest strength is criticals .

1) Warrior have HP bar almost 700+ more then archer which means he can take 3-4 xtra hits and there is no need to pot for that time.

2) Warriors have far more pots then archer so the hits that archer evades or makes can be easily backed up coz evasion doesnt mean all his opponent will do is 10 outta 10 0s....nope ..also we alreayd have high evasion so when archers increases their evasion with the help of skills , it gets equal to that of a warrior.

3) Warrior has far more defence then archers, considering archer's has low attack without their criticals they do even lesser damage.

4) So whatever normal damage archers make is already less for bothering his opponent + coz of low defence when they gets hit its far more compare to what they do on their opponents.

5) Their are many points more to be considered but for nw tht's enough.
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abhi07 wrote:i remember my old days when i was g4,g5,g6,g7 and i had no opts in my set still i use to kill ne archer of my lvl though they have mirage and chaser and i wasnt even having cruise at that moment. Yes, They do have accuracy,evasion etc but still there biggest strength is criticals .

1) Warrior have HP bar almost 700+ more then archer which means he can take 3-4 xtra hits and there is no need to pot for that time.

2) Warriors have far more pots then archer so the hits that archer evades or makes can be easily backed up coz evasion doesnt mean all his opponent will do is 10 outta 10 0s....nope ..also we alreayd have high evasion so when archers increases their evasion with the help of skills , it gets equal to that of a warrior.

3) Warrior has far more defence then archers, considering archer's has low attack without their criticals they do even lesser damage.

4) So whatever normal damage archers make is already less for bothering his opponent + coz of low defence when they gets hit its far more compare to what they do on their opponents.

5) Their are many points more to be considered but for nw tht's enough.
OK...ur answers

pawning at g3,g4,g5,g6,g7 is nothing great dude...coz during this lvl players dont have that pvp kinda gameplay...they concentrate more on lvlin up rather than pking...so pwnin at dis lvl is not considered...

1)agree that warriors hp line is more than archers...but wen i say archers defeat warriors(ignoring crits) by this i mean that archers make warrior run out of hp pots not kill them in sum 3-4 arrows

2)the difference between pots of archers and warriors is abt 8-10k(wen lvl is same)...talkin abt evasion u said "we alreayd have high evasion so when archers increases their evasion with the help of skills , it gets equal to that of a warrior"...ok lets clear this.. as far as i know i saw g9 numa pants havin 35% evasion(i dont know wether its max or not...i saw it in server)and mirage3 having 21%evasion(7% at each lvl...one of the high lvl player told me)...so g9 archer evasion is 35+21=56%...0_o i didnt know that g9 warrior pants have 56%(can u tell me which class)

ok now lets take this a archer having 56% and warrior havin 40% accuracy(just a figure for warriors accuracy dont know wether they have that much)so 56-40 = 16%...so therefore outta 100 shots there are chances that 16shots will b 0s...and archer gettin 0's on warriors is pretty less coz again they have a skill called "CHASER"

3) yes warriors have higher def...thats why a archer tankin a warrior will b a picture of stupid gameplay...archers run and hit warrior...so mostly they hit spell lyk UW and warrior hits melee so the dmg coz of spell is almost double..wen an archer run and hits UW the warriors manages to connect onlyy once...so archers hit spell and warriors it normal...E.g a same lvl warrior goin 1 on 1 wyt arhcer...the warrior does dmg of 300 on melee and the archer will do dmg of arnd 550 wyt UW

4)Archers agility is pretty high so archers run and hit warriors....wen archers run and hit some times the warriors get hit twice by the time they get to archers...so by the tym warriors cme towards archers the lose hp

5)anymore points???


u were tyalking abt pwnin at g3,g4,g5,g6...dude wen i waz 97 i 1 on 1 killed a 103 lvl warrior in arena...i use to run and hit him arow storm...try goin 1 on 1 wyt any arhcer of ur lvl having a good gameplay....and 1 more thing recently T.O.D waz held in my tower the winners were 3 archers (includin me :D :D :D :D :D ) and 1 hk...can u temme how many warriors won T.O.D



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Post by Chorbazaarr »

rofl 1 archer 17 lvl above me with max set making 2 UW 0s (with archer merc on so evasion reduced) and whenever archer stops running and starts to hit back his opponent they comes in the range of meelers like HKs\Warriors, so the amount of hits archer gives back is always same to what they get + we do get sm 0s but that's not a big prb , my lvl is only 135 still i make fair amount of hits on poisionarrow (i guess he's 155+) , leave some 0s on lvl difference .

even at g4,g5,g6 archers should hv better chance to win coz at those lvls they can always increase their accuracy and evasion without having opted set but no1 thinks of making their set opted at those lvls, so tell me 1 thing even after having so much acc and evasion and their opponent having a plain set, hw do they lose ???

I pointed at lower grades not for so called pwnage, it was an example of archer's accuracy and evasion V an opponent with plain set = archers lose(atleast in my case that's what happen when i fought with same lvl archer) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Ahem... so u agree na archers cant tank warriors , nw we always have a key F4 when archers stop i change to spear coz of its range and higher attack then svarog so if archers tries to stop they takes high damage , nw plz dont tell me they will use grahsat coz i always keep my finger on F4 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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well trixter,

1st lets consider the potting and defense and strength of all 4 classes by taking..say Chemos Hunt(solo) as a standard.
1)mage - a level 120 G7 blood mage can solo a chemos with a SS n a good set
2)hk - a level 130 hk can solo a chemos with ss and a good set

now.. warriors- lvl 130 warr with a good set n ss can solo a chemos

But archers - 140+ minimum even with a good set and SS unless u have a grahshat. Y?
1) low def(xbow) oe low atk(bow)
2) very less MP(some 10k at 140)
3) not a huge hp bar(unlessu git robust 6)
4) due to small hp bar tanking is tough

well now archers do have 2 very important strengths
1) Evasion
2) Crit Rate

If either of these two is cancelled an archer is really in a bad position.
if opponent is usin a dex uniq or a str unique the archers HAVE TO RUN AND HIT. because if they try to stand and pot they willl llose a lot of HP or MP. So archer gmaeplay is really almost as tough as a hk gameplay
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GMfirst wrote:Against Cruise Warriors

In PVP

1. Dispel the cruise effect.
2. Use chaser rather than mirage.
3. UW from a distance.
4. Use a Grahsat if you can.
5. Concentrate on additional crit equipment rather than evasion. Ideally you should not be taking any hits from the warrior so evasion is nt necessary. Run and take powerful shots. More the crits better it is.
6.Super Shue with a good crit rate makes a difference.

BOTTOM LINE - Do not plan on taking hits, Dont take hits, Make every arrow hurt as much as it can.

In PK

Unless he initiates attack on you, you cannot dispel his cruise. The rest will apply the same.

ty very much diablo
i hope u hav a pvp with Gmkarr { warrior }
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