A Straight Forward Question to GM’s

Mazee · Post by **Mazee** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:21 pm

HI GM’s,

I wanted to ask you guys this question from a long time “why is that even after P2P the drop rate and the WZ rate is still the same”, can you please tell us what is holding you back from doing so

. Well regarding the Exp the current rate is good well although some are not happy with it but many think its good, but when it comes to drop and WZ rate more than 90 % of players are unhappy. Hope to get some replies from you GM’s well if you are willing to.

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I Dont Like the feeling that I m in control of some one else

Keymaker

Post by **Gmfirst** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:27 pm

Money and drops in the low level maps are very high. In the new maps it will be lesser due to the low map concurrency levels.

Still, there are many good drops - G8's,Uniques and scrolls falling everyday. Your 90 % statistics is baseless. I am not accusing you but rather assuring you that the drop rates are fine. We actually check the drop rate and player growth every week for Game balance discrepancies. If there are any such thing as low drop rates and nobody being benefited, rest assured it will be fixed before you realise it.

Regards,
[GM]First.

Mazee · Post by **Mazee** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:56 pm

DAMN that was Fast. I think I know why Cause GM[First] checks the Forums every Satruday Evening

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Well if we come back to the topic if you say the drop Rate is really good then can u please start a Poll regarding the Drop and WZ rates of its ok with you any one of us will start it.

And as you mentioned if the drop rate is really so good then why is that sometime we get no drops even after killing more than 10 bosses in which ever map it may be.

Hope to get some reply for this

I Dont Like the feeling that I m in control of some one else

Keymaker

dredisback · Post by **dredisback** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:26 pm

THE THING IS, WHEN WE DON'T GET A PARTICULAR DROP AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE AROUND IS GET IT, THEN WE TEND TO GET ULTRA PISSED. AFTER THAT, NOT GETTING ANY DROP WITHIN ONE HOUR SEEMS LIKE AN ETERNITY. PLUS ONE MUST NOTICE CERTAIN DROPS HAVE LIMITS TO ADHERE TO. COZ IF ONE IN EVERY 10 CHEMOS DROPPED A UNIQUE THEN I WOULD RUN AROUND WITH A G8 UNIQUE EVERYDAY AND STILL NOT BE ABLE TO SELL IT OFF AT A DECENT PRICE.

OF COURSE IF YOU START A POLL FOR THE PLAYER OPINION ABOUT THE DROP RATES THEN OBVIOUSLY MANY WILL REPLY THAT THE RATES ARE LOW. IT'S JUST HUMAN NATURE TO ASSUME THAT THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE. ONCE YOU GET BETTER DROP RATES THEN YOU WILL REQUEST FOR MORE....AND KEEP ON REPEATING THE SAME......

AS FAR AS WOONZ RATE IS CONCERNED, IT DOSEN'T ACTUALLY MATTER, COZ IF LESS WOONZ IS OBTAINED THEN ITEM COSTS WILL GO DOWN AS THE VALUE OF MONEY INCREASES. THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT WILL OCCUR IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO BUY POTS AND EXPENSIVE STUFF LIKE SARGHIS FROM THE ARMOURY.

AND IT'S GOOD THAT YOU ARE UNHAPPY, OR ELSE THE VALUE OF MONEY WILL REDUCE AND THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING TO LOOK AHEAD FOR, COZ YOU WILL GET HIGH SOON, RICH SOON, THEN WHATS THE USE OF PLAYING THE GAME?

Mazee · Post by **Mazee** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:20 am

Whats with this CAPS thing dude... u got any sight problem kyaa....

Keymaker

Suckkminee · Post by **Suckkminee** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:03 am

Well... From a player's point of view Keymaker is absolutely right... The prices of G8's and G7's have dropped so drastically that it is better to NPC it than sell it to another player...

About 4 months back Aiigis was sold at 60mil+, Drappur was 20mil+... Now ppl ask Aiigis for 3mil and Drappu for 2.5mil... Hence making wz has now become tougher... So are the G8's and G7 prices... They pay just 100k or 200k more than the NPC price... Now these are the drops which u get from Open Beta maps...

Even if u go to higher lvl maps like Den, P2, Forest the drops u get is nothing more than a UJ, SJ, Neri G if a little luckier Aiigis, Drappur or if u r extremely lucky a Unique or grace... And it is not always easy to hunt in High lvl maps...

I've seen a lot of G8's struggle to make a G9 set... Coz they are unable to make money... They can hunt in Open Beta maps which hardly drops nething... Even if it drops U get NPC items or LMS and SMS... And the money which u get out of the NPC is sufficient to buy pots and larcs...

Princegaykot · Post by **Princegaykot** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:43 am

Well the above post of ritual is very good picture of A3INDiA......

It gives true scenario what every G8 is facing now.
As he rightly mentioned any G8 goes for 5 mil (MAX) and G7 1.5 mil.

Market is very tight this days. So we better NPC and make money rather than trading for low deal. That too if we r lucky to pull off a G8 from Boss.

So now players are in vicious cycle of playing abt 5 hrs a day makin some 10 mil max IF LUCKY

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And spending all this in pots and larcs for hunts.

Nowdays for making G9 ( Full set ) and G10 ( Only one item ) one has to cough up atleast 400+ mil plus. ITs only possible if UNIQUE is dropped.
Hence people run in same non-shiny and sad G9 set for more than 6 months.

I dont blame drop rate if woonz are supplied but both are directly related. So player is in U-turn mode nothing else.

So i can suggest just one thing to soothe this situation in favor of player ...
that is every boss awards player or party 1mil WZ irrespect of the drop.

Or atleast one fix drop from boss ( SAVING SCROLL

) atleast to help player in lagg situation when he dies and dont drop the items. He he u can see players dropping many items ......recently Hatrel BOss event was scheduled and instead of boss dropping and item many players were dying and droppping there stuffs.

So its better not to lose rather than gain.
Hope you get the point and increasing Drop rate woont help perhaps it will just inflate the market. So look your ways to increase woonz awarded to a player..

IGN - Neoman.
Mace HK 129.

Isildur · Post by **Isildur** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:10 am

lol i agree wid rosh.
make bosses give 1m to each player huntin it at that time

dredisback · Post by **dredisback** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:13 am

G8 GOING FOR 5 MIL? G7 FOR 1.5 MIL MAX?

THIS IS GOOD NEWS. EARLIER G8 WAS LIKE 20-25 MIL AND G7 WENT FOR AS HIGH AS 7 MIL. THAT WAS A HUGE INFLATION, NOW THINGS ARE RETURNING TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, IT'S GOOD PRICES WILL REDUCE BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM WILL BE CRAFTING G9 AND G10. G10 PROMINENTLY HERE, BUT THE LOTTERY SYSTEM AND GAMBLING EXIST FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE, SO WE CAN EARN A HUGE AMOUNT OF CASH IN AN INSTANT, ITS THE MOST UNRELIABLE METHOD AND ALSO THE MOST PROFITABLE............WELL FROM AN OPTIMISTIC POINT OF VIEW.

Mazee · Post by **Mazee** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:21 pm

Hmmm optimistic eh, so what are you trying tell here stop hunting and try making Wz by lottery and Betting

, well any way we were asking the views of players who are playing now currently no offense i guess u stopped looooong back, and as u said the grass is always green on the other side, it is cause u r justing giving u r views and which is different from what players are experiencing in game.

P.S : I just wanted to make a point on the Drop and Wz rate as no difference is found even after P2P.

I Dont Like the feeling that I m in control of some one else

Keymaker