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Dhanurdhari
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Post by Dhanurdhari »

gmfirst wrote:I can clear all your doubts but i am restricted by something called player's privacy. So if Bane and Cuper dont have issues about some private things about their statements and items i can bring the whole SUN down on this. So all of you can see whats going on.

Hellbound, We asked for proof, yes none of you could get any. When we got enoug ourselves we went ahead and banned that character. If you dont understand why we ask for proof, let me explain. Tomorrow if some player who got annoyed that you didnt let him KS around you will come and tell in the forums, Hellbound knows all gamejockeys and local managers from bombay. Thats how he is high level and strong. You can conuter argue everybody knows who i am on this server. On the contrary that everybody accounts to a very small amount of people you know. He will get a few of his friends to come and talk in the forums too. Just Imagine how pleasing it would be if we were to just go by his words and freeze your account for investigation, leave alone banning. You would raise the whole city ... :roll:

FBI asks for proof because they are an investigatin agency. Any investigating agency needs proof to prosecute and convict. Same applies to us when comes to investigating non manner activities in A3. Evidence and hence 'proof of act' is the fundemental requirement of every investigation. We certainly need it and will continue to act based on it. No doubt about that.

Arcangles - We have no issues about players raising issues and clearing their doubts, but then we know so much of the behind the scenes activities that we know what are the real intentions. Also calling Warman a GM is baseless. Time and again repeated it is more than just clearing a doubt - its an accusation about our credibility. We are bound to take it hard.

The character 'Warman' has been banned and nobody will see him around for a year. None of the items reported to be with bane are from Warman. We checked that up. Bane will have to follow this up and clear it. I doubt he can since that account has not been with the actual owner in a long time.

Regards,
[GM]First.
nice post Gm
v really appretiate ur participation in da forums and i think u r correct
well v cant just trust nething without a proof and u guyz cant accuse ppl without proofs....
WELL SAID GMFIRST

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Suckkminee
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Post by Suckkminee »

Mr. Gm u never answered my question... Tell me copy and paste my quesion here again to gain ur attention :P ....

Watch how condradicting ur statements are...

The following is ur initial claim when u tried explaining that ur hands are clean...
The character 'Warman' has been banned and nobody will see him around for a year. None of the items reported to be with bane are from Warman. We checked that up. Bane will have to follow this up and clear it. I doubt he can since that account has not been with the actual owner in a long time.
Banes and Cupers items - Do not belong to Warman. His supershue and his items are still present in his character. If we find a hacker, we make sure that he or none of his buddies online makes benefit of hacking. That is the base and motive of every investigation. I can ensure we did the same with this case. If somebody still claims these are warmans items that were made illegaly and passed on to this character, then somebody lied. I can prove the same. So i would like these somebodies to come out and talk.
This is when u were cornered... To reply this u took around 2 days....
One of Warman's shue was sold to another player ( cannot mention the name for real cash). This information was confirmed to us by mail from the customer himself. We cannot retrieve the item as it has passed many hands now. The owner of the shue gets to keep it. About his equipments, All his G9 are still with him but we were informed that he had some of his G8's in another character which we were not aware of. Those have passed hands to. But He has also confirmed that those were taken without his permission. Based on this we will penalise the first level of characters that were using these items.
These were ur quotes...
My question was what if I wud have asked u to bring the whole Sun down and thing like that, managed to get Bane and Cuper to give NOC's.... Then how u wud have given the screenies...

Or do u mean to say u nvr checked Warman's char and gave irresposible statements stating Warman's stuffs are intact under ur control...

Plz Answer the question in bold...
Xeaon
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Post by Xeaon »

For all those who thinks warman is a GM caracter, they are missing one vital link.... its called MOTIVE. Usually theres a motive behind any crime, playing illegally in mmorpg being no different. Now what can be the motive of a GM to play a G9/10 caracter when they can themselves play maxed lev 165 caracter. To say they too want to show off is taking it a bit too far considering its not just a game for them. They too are answerable to those above them, only if to account for the business lost by their foolishness. On the other hand as it was alleged hundreds of time before, if it was for 'motivating others to level up', then well its part of their business tactics and they have been successful in it, that is by looking at the sheer number of players playing a3 today.

To repeat its simply absurd to think warman or for that matter any other caracter is of GM.

Regards
IC
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Post by Sonofheaven »

*takes out a pen- searches in the drawer- takes out a piece of paper - notes down IC's important and noteworthy points*
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Suckkminee
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Post by Suckkminee »

The motive is simple: Test the server...

It is learnt that they were all testing chars...

If it is not the case, can U(IC) give us details as to how and where they lvled up...
Xeaon
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Post by Xeaon »

If they were trying to test the server then there was no need to hide that fact. They could have played with their official tags at whatever levels/caracters/maps/armours/weapons/practically whatever setting they want. Recent evidence being a noob archer which was officially helping noobs in temoz. No one questions it.
Why will they try to ruin the reputation of their own server. And i m not trying to say that those players did not indulge in any illegal activity, but what i m saying is it simply cant be GM's other caracter.
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Post by Lonetear »

Ok I accept Ur Points Ms.Chick

Now Here are My Questions


---> If at all the character was to motivate others to level up fast just like u say... Isnt it wrong that his stuff is Being circulated in the game ? We have Raised the same query in the previous posts.....

---> I n Magekt have Knowledge about Bane's aKa Deagle's Link with warman And that warman used to share his stuff with deagle... so... if Warman was a test character then IS IT RIGHT FOR HIM TO SHARE HIS ITEMS ????



~thebiggestnoob

[ hey moron gms u better implement avatars and siggys here or else :X ]
Xeaon
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Post by Xeaon »

I repeat, i m not saying that those caracters are clean. There may be leakage of items as well. But as u know items r sold n bought several times. Players using illegal means use this method so as to pass items through several of carcters before selling / using it. Like say if i have 10 lev 50 accounts. I will sell hacked items through all of them. Then i will sell it to u and u sell it to someone else. How will GM ever know that my 10 accounts and ur account , who genuinely bought it, are or are not involved in the chain. Ofcourse they know of the chain, but they cant afford to penalise all of them considering they too have a business to do.

Only thing i m saying is these suspisious caracters cant be GM's/test caracter.
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Post by Lonetear »

OK i agree ! :P

Hmmmm Are ur posts beginning to make Sense OR this is the FIrst time i m reading ur posts seriously :P .


But trust me My scouts repeatedly report that Warman and Deagle have Brotherly Linkage [ Deagle plays Bane now ]

Hey Chick U remember Killer ?? N RB ?

I still wonder where killer came from Like i d never seen tht guy before u know and one day suddenly he came up in g8 [ G8 tht time was like WTF G8! Maaki ! ]

Think about it.....


~thebiggestnoob

[ Active in a3 as Blackhell sometimes now ]
Gmfirst
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Post by Gmfirst »

As far as Warman the character is concerned his items are still in the character and are still there. But the G8's that are circulating through these characters mentioned were in an another account which was not known to us as his character. We have come across that but it was used in the chain of item transfer and it looks more like just another guy. Later on we communicated with Warman and promised a Ban reduction to 1 year if he would participate in naming other hackers and help collect evidence against them. Its only then we have come to know bout this other character and the items that were there.
This information i have given is highly sensitive and i have posted it after giving it much thought and after acceptance by warman. He feared hostile behaviour by others involved in the chain and thats the reason we have not been able to put this info out. Now that all this has been blown out of proportions it has been put out before you.

Warman is not a test character. We have different testing procedures and most of them are done outside the server.

Also we did not use any characters to motivate players in this way. These characters mentioned were certainly not helpful leave alone nice. They have rather been very infamous for their online personalities. We have always had complaints about them.

About items going around which were created using GM's, For each item that is created by the GM, there exists a proper and continous log. We are not playing gods here. We are responsible for our actions and we tend to be the same by nature.

Regards,
[GM]First.
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