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Enchating-Crafting - favors - myths

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:32 pm
by Saadmage
Hi guys...

well this isnt a compilation of all those mentioned in the subject... its just to get things clarified from the Gurus of A3. :P

to start with...
1. Does enchanting success depend on healer relation? i hardly did any healer quests (althougth i have started now). and most of the OPG's fail when i use. also lvlups of armor and weapon

2. i have worst success with Opals when compared to Peri and Garnets. Can this be mapped to relation with a particular npc? Dont know whether this is totally absurd or not.. but anyway i would like to check with u guys:
Pilpora->lightning->Opal?
Elpuron->Ice->Peridot?
Nermar->fire->Garnet?
no idea about Temoz npcs

3. I have done very little crafting apart from the ores-> crystal crafting. Ppl say that when you craft... your favours reduce witht he npc. Does that include the crafting that u do with 100% success? like making crystals, making G9, making storage boxes n all?
Scared this might be true. i started doing all the crafting with 100% success from another npc (Yarmo) and opting and other major crafting from the one with which we have relation (Kaduru in my case). Does that help?

I guess thats it for now. If i get good responses for these... i might end up with more ideas and post them :P Please help us out Gurus. :)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:03 pm
by Kiz
No offense but all the 3 points above are not true to the best of my knowledge,
1) Healers have no effect on enchant but they do have a great deal of effect on base favours and so on, enchant is completely dependant on the town armoury
2) Diff NPC havin different elements, its an absurd idea, but am not sure if its true or not
3) No u dont use up ur enchant in any ways, its pure luck. PURE LUCK!!!!!

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:42 am
by Saadmage
wicked_gremlin wrote:No offense but all the 3 points above are not true to the best of my knowledge,
1) Healers have no effect on enchant but they do have a great deal of effect on base favours and so on, enchant is completely dependant on the town armoury
2) Diff NPC havin different elements, its an absurd idea, but am not sure if its true or not
3) No u dont use up ur enchant in any ways, its pure luck. PURE LUCK!!!!!
No offense taken :) i just was clearing my doubts. Hope noone takes offense in my queries too... :)

1-need suggestions from more ppl about this. i have good relations with armory. but my enchant fails like hell. thought its the healer relation that i am missing. and i do know some ppl who have good relation with healer with a good success rate.
2-fine
3-i was talking bout crafting not enchant.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:14 pm
by Kiz
enchant and crafting both depend on luck. ur luck is like % of success.

let me give u an example:
supposing u want to enchant an item X
1st is item is blessed success chance is increased by 5%
if u r using a sj its success rate is 40%(i am not perfectly sure of the number, but just an example)
and say u got 10% relations which adds 5% more to success rate,
so u have a 50% chance of success or failure.

well this is purely an example and the numbers are not perfect, but the point is, there is no way u can expect 100% success, depending on all the various factors the enchant/crafting will succeed and unless u have a bug or something crafting/enchant may fail/succeed depending on your luck

P.S.: Dont flame over the example, its just to help understand how it works. thats it

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:21 pm
by Saadmage
wicked_gremlin wrote:enchant and crafting both depend on luck. ur luck is like % of success.

let me give u an example:
supposing u want to enchant an item X
1st is item is blessed success chance is increased by 5%
if u r using a sj its success rate is 40%(i am not perfectly sure of the number, but just an example)
and say u got 10% relations which adds 5% more to success rate,
so u have a 50% chance of success or failure.

well this is purely an example and the numbers are not perfect, but the point is, there is no way u can expect 100% success, depending on all the various factors the enchant/crafting will succeed and unless u have a bug or something crafting/enchant may fail/succeed depending on your luck

P.S.: Dont flame over the example, its just to help understand how it works. thats it
I wasnt flaming the last time :oops: ... Sorry if you thought so. :)

And yeah. A very informative post. Thanks.

One more doubt... Whenever people try OPG's... they consitantly get good opts with one and bad with another. Any other factor or its just the luck factor? In my case... my luck with Opal is horrible. Peri and Garnet much better.

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:06 am
by Kiz
dude nothing of the sort as far as my knowledge goes, well i am not sayin i am perfect or i am god, but see there is nobody in the server(excluding char bugs) who got 100% success rate, right?? People may say niff trick, vermerden trick, memora field trick(for identification) etc. But what i say is, it just depends on ur luck, well some people say OPGs are best for reload, some say runes, its pure preference, OPGs are just like Rubies Sapphires and Topazes, they work in a similar fashion but OPGs are much rarer so we try to find a way to increase the success rate and hence just for the heck of it we will try these "tricks" but no trick has 100% result, so again u blame it on bad luck which implies again that its purely based on luck, supposing success rate of OPG is 45%(just supposing) if u add 100 OPGs to an item, 45 of them will make a difference(so atleast one of em has to give max value) thats all, the tricks are mere superstitions and nothing more, u can try em if u want but its all the same. :D

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:27 am
by Saadmage
wicked_gremlin wrote:dude nothing of the sort as far as my knowledge goes, well i am not sayin i am perfect or i am god, but see there is nobody in the server(excluding char bugs) who got 100% success rate, right?? People may say niff trick, vermerden trick, memora field trick(for identification) etc. But what i say is, it just depends on ur luck, well some people say OPGs are best for reload, some say runes, its pure preference, OPGs are just like Rubies Sapphires and Topazes, they work in a similar fashion but OPGs are much rarer so we try to find a way to increase the success rate and hence just for the heck of it we will try these "tricks" but no trick has 100% result, so again u blame it on bad luck which implies again that its purely based on luck, supposing success rate of OPG is 45%(just supposing) if u add 100 OPGs to an item, 45 of them will make a difference(so atleast one of em has to give max value) thats all, the tricks are mere superstitions and nothing more, u can try em if u want but its all the same. :D
Thanks again :) 8)

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:36 pm
by Netdemona
U r welcome :)

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:55 pm
by Kiz
he was thankin me bytch :P
lol

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:36 pm
by Badajau
:lol: :lol: :lol: