Are gms partial?

[Suckkminee]

Gmfirst,

Without going into any names, (like i would like to blame some bangalore cafe ppl, similarly ritual will like to blame few other for being beneficiaries of gm's favors, which would take the it to off topic flaming.) i here want to ask 1 simple thing :

Are GMS partial to a section of people. Till now two groups have been blamed for being beneficiries:

1.People personally knowing admins, ( allegation from ritual and timekeeper)

Where the hell have i posted that Gm's know certain ppl personally... I don't remember writing newhere that he/she is son, daughter, father, mother, cousin, uncle, aunty of GM... Again hitting in the air


And what do u mean by saying Bangalore cafe has strong backing??? When Fennyhood got hacked it took more than a month to get his char back and 2 more months to get his items(G9 bow and Iarrtek), since they were investigating if the char was shared... Since they found out that the char was not shared for more than a month and it was coz of keyloggers they returned the char back to him... And he did not get all his stuff back... His SS is not returned till date...

ANd u guys must have forgotten Hellarch char... Hellarch was hacked some 5 months back... None of his things is returned... He is also from our cafe... And the loss which we all incured was huge... Fully opted G8 archer set, Fenny's SS, Iarrtek, Ishnish, Nanna, Fully opted G9 set, 80mil cash and loads of G8's.... And we are not cribbing abt it.. COz we know it was because of our mistake and we can't blame the GM's for it coz it was shared... We requested the GM's for a second thought.. But once they decided against it we left that topic right there...

And I really wanna know who r those so called Beneficiaries... None of us have ever been benifited by ne1... We have only worked hard towards whatever we have achieved so far.. If some1 is jealous abt it... Neither me nor my cafemates give a fck abt it...

[Xeaon]

We do help the players who been cheated while sharing there accounts with there friends but in that case they cant demand every thing they lost

I m not saying u give everything to a banned & shared id. But u sure give MOST of the items. By his own admission,

Ritual
When Fennyhood got hacked it took more than a month to get his char back and 2 more months to get his items(G9 bow and Iarrtek)

And diablo, if u say that fennyhood toon was not shared , then it will be the biggest joke of this a3 server, and 99% people know that it is shared. Infact if i m not wrong gmfirst have said it himself somewhere. And fennyhood toon has been one of epitomes of abuses in game. Then how does he qualify to get his most valuable items back?

As i said above i can name atleast 5 toons which have not received a single item back after getting hacked, only reason given by u being it was shared.

P.S.There is only one cafe in bangalore .

[Gmdiablo]

As I told you, we do help them once with a warning and its there responsibility to take care of there accounts after that.

[GM]Diablo

[Suckkminee]

P.S.There is only one cafe in bangalore

Again hitting in air... Wish u cud come over to banaglore sometime and I cud shaow u 100's of Cafe where ppl play A3... And moreover Fennyhood was not from our cafe... He was from a different cafe before he started coming to our cafe when Life got his char back...

And diablo, if u say that fennyhood toon was not shared , then it will be the biggest joke of this a3 server, and 99% people know that it is shared. Infact if i m not wrong gmfirst have said it himself somewhere. And fennyhood toon has been one of epitomes of abuses in game. Then how does he qualify to get his most valuable items back?

They have done an extensive investigation on the facts and have known that Fenny was not shared for more than 1 month...

And the reason for the delay in getting his char was coz of his conduct... And we know abt it more than ne1 else...

And which valuable items are u talking abt.. A G9 bow?? THat can be made in less than 10 mins.. With the kind of money resource which our cafe has it is nothing at all for us... And Iarrtekk.. Before I quit I had 3 Iarrtekk in my storage which I've given it to my friends... And none of the items which the GM's returned were valuable.. He lost the biggest assest of all... A SS..

And IC why do u always wanna see the dark side of everything... Since u say that the GM's favour our cafe then what happened to Hellarch char... We lost everything and got nothing at all... Since we were guilty of sharing on that occassion the GM's did not return nething at all... And we requested them to have a second thought which they denied and we nvr appealed for it again... Now what do u have to say abt being benificial Cafe...

[Xeaon]

Very vague responses from u gmdiablo. No offence. But i would prefer much concrete response from gmfirst.

If u have any troubles answering here in concrete terms then i will make a special yes/no type objective questions. But i sincerely request u to save me from taking that trouble.

And i m not doubting ur honesty or ethics here.

Regards
IC.

[Gmfirst]

Let me make it as simple as possible...

You register for an account. Keep the account ID and Pass safe.

If you forget the password which you are bound to do sometime use the forgot pass option. If you feel threatened or feel somebody has hacked your account you can again use the change password option.

All the other situations you talk about sharing,key loggers in certain cafes and some really smart moves resulting in account loss come under issues that are not common online account security issues. I say this to stop the comparison game.

Now to answer your question, we are not partial

but at the same time we have laid out certain guidelines.

When an account is hacked and the question of item retrieval comes in, its simply a matter, "can we" and not "Shall we".

The whole reason i asked Ritual to spell out all items reportedly returned to carl is to bring out the fact that not all items were retrieved in his case too. There is loss. There will always be in most cases.

About Penalised characters also getting help from us. The penalty is given to bring back the balance. Once a person goes through the penalty he is expected to have changed. There is no need for vindicating players beyond the penaltied laid out.

All of you can assume, conclude, propose, prove all kinds of theories, but the simple fact is each case differs and each solution differs.

We will not tell you when exactly an item is deemed to be irrecoverable or not simply because it will raise another circle of scam to try and manipulate us into spawning items for them.

P.S. Ritual hasnt mentioned anything about personal favours but i do remember the great revealing of how we are very partial to the Patels and Sexysam. . Sorry Had to bring it up.

Regards,
[GM]First.

[Fsfdd]

have to take my reply back .. cause GMs have answered it ... but GMs i didn't find my ques answered ...

[Suckkminee]

P.S. Ritual hasnt mentioned anything about personal favours but i do remember the great revealing of how we are very partial to the Patels and Sexysam. . Sorry Had to bring it up.

Regards,
[GM]First.

Hi Sexysam,
Your account has been frozen in regards with the investigation of an item hack. we have clear evidence to prove the transfer of items. Further your conversation with me from the char Magekt fails to prove your stand. In fact after that conversation we come to the conclusion that you have hacked those items. If you strongly stand with your point then to retain those items we will require the player who placed the complaint to write to us stating that he gave the items wilfully to you.

Regards,
[GM]First.

Now u tell me... U have all the proof in the world that Mr. Sexysam was involved in item hacking... U ban him for a certain period(1 month or so..) and then release him... And 1 fine day Mr. Sexysam is cleared of all charges... Is out in the open...

Guess u gave him a vacation from A3 so that he cud grow more muscle in his brain to hack more chars... All he has to do the next time he needs a vacation from A3 is... Hack a few more chars... Get everything that he wants... Get caught and say "Brb after 1 month guys with loads of surprise.. This time around with full G10 Axe set and then change to G10 sword set and get G9 uniques..."

It is like a Murderer being sentenced for Lifetime and then coz of some political influence u get the offender acquitted...

Tell me frankly Mr. Brainy Gmfirst... R u not sending a wrong signal to the rest of the players... Isn't this something which makes us feel that HACKERS RULE A3 INDIA... They HACK our hard earned stuff... Make merry out of it... And even when u guys have proof against the hacker... U let him loose which is like swaying the green flag for the other hackers giving them the confidence to hack freely...

And this is the reason why my whole cafe quit... We work hard to achieve something... And the hackers find shortcuts to success which is a teaser to all our harwork...

[Xeaon]

K time for some objective questions which can be answered in yes/no. I will answere them for u, but in case u feel answer should be otherwise, u can change them.

1.Diablo accepted that retrival of items is based upon respect that a toon have in game?
Yes. (Would be great if admins can define what he meant by respect here)

2.A caracter is penalised only after many warnings?
Yes.

3.So for each penalty levied upon a toon, there r usually more than 1 offence commited by a player? Say a person abuses , he gets warning 1st time, and ban 2nd time.
Yes.

4.A penalised caracter can be said to have atleast 1 unit of respect less than those who have always played fair?
Yes. (Atleast they cant have more respect than fair players)

5.Penalised and shared id gets most of their items back?
Yes. Eg: Fennyhood, Evanescance, Yanaa. (all having good backups in no of paying ids)

6.Nonpenalised and shared id sometimes dont get items back?
Yes. Eg: Pcompany, and many others. (i doubt if they have enough back up).



I will let community decide on it instead of putting my own conclusion which is obvious.

Its common knowledge that u can spawn any item, and i mean ANY, using the gmtools u people use. If u deny on this then i will put up some links on how to edit the items in ur caracter in a private a3 server. Hope u get my point that any item can be spawned. Its entirely the question of why u should do it.
7.And i want to know the reason and parameters on which u decide whether to spawn a item or not.

Besides this, most of the time the item is simply lying in hackers' inventory. Recent example being DKM's supershue for which u agreed to give it back only when many players asked u to do it. If someone else in place of DKM/Pcompany, who dont come to forum often (more so coz ur forum reg is still buggy and new players cant post here) had lost that SS , it would have gone for good into the hands of hacker (oh yeah hacker rulez ).

8.What made u change ur mind in that case when u allowed DKM to have his shue? And do u agree that if we people had not hard pressed for it, u would have let the hacker have that item?

9.I just came across where ur urself accepted sympathesers make a difference to ur account assistance in yanaa's case:
http://forum.a3india.com/viewtopic.php? ... ght=#21719

GMFirst
Still there were sympathisers and you got free with just de-levelling.

So if someone dont have community support then hes gone for good .... isnt?
Regards
IC

[Suckkminee]

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P.S.There is only one cafe in bangalore


Again hitting in air... Wish u cud come over to banaglore sometime and I cud shaow u 100's of Cafe where ppl play A3... And moreover Fennyhood was not from our cafe... He was from a different cafe before he started coming to our cafe when Life got his char back...

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And diablo, if u say that fennyhood toon was not shared , then it will be the biggest joke of this a3 server, and 99% people know that it is shared. Infact if i m not wrong gmfirst have said it himself somewhere. And fennyhood toon has been one of epitomes of abuses in game. Then how does he qualify to get his most valuable items back?


They have done an extensive investigation on the facts and have known that Fenny was not shared for more than 1 month...

And the reason for the delay in getting his char was coz of his conduct... And we know abt it more than ne1 else...

And which valuable items are u talking abt.. A G9 bow?? THat can be made in less than 10 mins.. With the kind of money resource which our cafe has it is nothing at all for us... And Iarrtekk.. Before I quit I had 3 Iarrtekk in my storage which I've given it to my friends... And none of the items which the GM's returned were valuable.. He lost the biggest assest of all... A SS..

And IC why do u always wanna see the dark side of everything... Since u say that the GM's favour our cafe then what happened to Hellarch char... We lost everything and got nothing at all... Since we were guilty of sharing on that occassion the GM's did not return nething at all... And we requested them to have a second thought which they denied and we nvr appealed for it again... Now what do u have to say abt being benificial Cafe...

IC COMPLETELY EVADES IT... AS I SAID BEFORE... SHE USES THE PART SHE NEEDS... THE REST IS ALL USELESS FOR HER...